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Post by cheddar on Aug 12, 2007 16:57:44 GMT
another reason i hate the states, is it's $2 =£1.. but what we pay in £££ you pay in $$$ jus playin, but it does kinda suck. also, world superpowers will always suck, power corrupts.. absolute power corrupts absolutely and all. but for real, look throughout history, man has never, and will never be capable of ruling himselfit's a fact of life word... and actually going into Europe, their continent (since their an economic alliance or w/e) as well as China are enough of a threat to both our military and our economy that its not like we rule the world or w/e other Americans seem to think. Thats the reason why far Eastern conflicts are so sensitive for us...because we are under a treaty that would force us to go to war with China if they invade...Taiwan, is it? US has essentially set themselves up for disaster...just wait until 12/21/12 when the nuclear war ends all life....
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Post by Akshun on Aug 12, 2007 17:37:30 GMT
According to the American people Bush should have never gotten in office the first time around. Al Gore actually won Popular vote (meaning he won more states and thus got most votes.) On the other hand i have a big problem with something that the US has in place. Thats the Electoral College. If you think because you voted in a presidential election its gonna make a difference, it really doesn't. Vote all you want but its always up to the Electoral College to vote who gets into office. Thus bringing me back to 2000. As Al Gore won the publics vote, he lost the electoral and thats why Bush is president. As for the '04 election, you have to choose between the lesser of the 2 evils and they both sucked and i agree with you on that one. Styles P. also had a bit to say about that in the 'Why?' Remix. The electoral college was once good, because early in US history it was hard to get news around from town to town about Presidential candidates. But now with the media, its gets spread easily almost to every corner of the US. But now members can easily be bribed by the candidates which are almost always people with a lot of money and power. That electoral college shit gotta go, people can make their own decisions. thats just a bit of info most americans dont really know about the government. People dont hate the US, Its usually just politics, you really cant say you hate a country especially if you have never stepped foot in it or know all of its citizens. US politics aint always the best, and they dont always go by majority like the iraq war. Because of that is why you got other countries Presidents like Hugo Chavez trying to 'Bring down' the US. Also US influence has a lot to do with it, but every country gets hate, its just usually the World Superpower that gets the most hate just like England did when it was the world superpower. And for the obesity thing, i think its how you are raised. other than that its just people with too many choices and they constantly make the wrong ones. I dont think the electoral college is a problem...what I think is a problem is that in the Bush election the state of Florida didnt really vote for Bush. Its no secret that Bush cheated to win the election. thats kinda hypocritical. Its the electoral college who decides who becomes president, so it really didnt matter who won floridas popular vote which i believe gore won, but the important votes aka the 25 electoral college votes went to Bush. the Electoral college ruled against the people, and its like the third time that it has happened.
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Post by Alter on Aug 12, 2007 22:33:36 GMT
can i point out that america IS the world power.. until the UN gains power
think about it... they directly defied the UN (thats basically everyone but themselves..s o it includes EU and China) and nothing happened
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Post by cheddar on Aug 12, 2007 23:38:17 GMT
can i point out that america IS the world power.. until the UN gains power think about it... they directly defied the UN (thats basically everyone but themselves..s o it includes EU and China) and nothing happened world power yes, but what i was saying is that we dont rule the world like some people think we do. China is screwing us financially and the Euro is already more valuable than our dollars are.
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Post by Akshun on Aug 13, 2007 3:16:40 GMT
can i point out that america IS the world power.. until the UN gains power think about it... they directly defied the UN (thats basically everyone but themselves..s o it includes EU and China) and nothing happened UN is really never going to gain any power especially over the US. its headquarters are in NY, and most of its finance comes from US
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Post by KB-S on Aug 13, 2007 3:50:52 GMT
Well Alter (and the rest of you euro cats).. Feel proud.. Cause my personal curiosity has me touring Europe next spring.. (Plus I wanna get down with some Euro women)..
But anyways.. I don't think Bush's or any President's decisions should be looked at as our whole countries.. I mean.. What he decides is HIS decision and I (along with many Americans) RARELY agree with what he says..
I think it would be an easy job to be President of my country.. For real.. You could promise gold bars on everyone's door-step & not deliver a damn thing.. As long as you don't fuck things up more.. You go down in history as a "Good" president.. Lol.. It sounds horrible.. But its true..
But hey.. Like I said.. I don't think our political leaders reflect our nations societal mentality.. It would be like if I said England's (Or any other nation's) people were horrible because of its political leaders were fucked up from time to time.. Everyone makes mistakes.. But entire nations shouldn't be held guilty by association..
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Post by cheddar on Aug 13, 2007 4:17:50 GMT
I think it would be an easy job to be President of my country.. For real.. You could promise gold bars on everyone's door-step & not deliver a damn thing.. As long as you don't fuck things up more.. You go down in history as a "Good" president.. Lol.. It sounds horrible.. But its true.. Haha, we really are just like ancient Rome.
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Post by fashur on Aug 17, 2007 2:20:18 GMT
i never hate a country i just dont like some politics of america, its just that i think the most powerful country must share his power a bit more. like the war with iraque, it was a very big descision of america, but many were against it but still its an opinion and i dont hate usa for it thats like saying bill gates should spread his money around so we r equals our ancestors didnt fight for other countries they fought for ours
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Post by fashur on Aug 17, 2007 2:23:52 GMT
I dont hate the US....But some of the decisions are questionable.. like the Bush decision too continue the War in Iraq... and the way he failed too help New Orleans :l and if we hadnt continued in Iraq, they wouldnt rebuild, and just be taken over by al-queda when the helicopters did get to new orleans, people were shooting at them and most people know about the electoral college to the dude talkin bout that
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Post by fashur on Aug 17, 2007 2:28:13 GMT
another reason i hate the states, is it's $2 =£1.. but what we pay in £££ you pay in $$$ jus playin, but it does kinda suck. also, world superpowers will always suck, power corrupts.. absolute power corrupts absolutely and all. but for real, look throughout history, man has never, and will never be capable of ruling himselfit's a fact of life i think man is capable of ruling himself we have lasted thus far without going extinct i dont think we should have a democracy this may sound extreme, and stupid but its true we should have a king have people vote on a king then if he takes away any of the divine rights, start a revolution n have a new king we cant get anywhere if we try to follow everybodies plans we need one plan
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Post by fashur on Aug 17, 2007 2:31:34 GMT
ok and this is probably my last post in here
in vietnam, the president then was looked upon just as bad, if not worse than bush by the media the media will take advantage of anything to get viewers
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Post by fashur on Aug 17, 2007 2:38:01 GMT
most americans are spoiled, arrogant, ignorant people who believe that they are the best country on Earth without ever being to another country. if you listen to some Immortal Technique or watch SiCKO or some other Micheal Moore movie it very well may open your eyes if you think America is a perfect nation... that said I still think America is a good country...but there are a ton of things I hate about it. the best place in the world is probably holland im tired right now so im not sure if its the country im thinking of but it has health insurance for everybody, and its very structured
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Post by obietrice on Aug 17, 2007 8:06:48 GMT
most americans are spoiled, arrogant, ignorant people who believe that they are the best country on Earth without ever being to another country. if you listen to some Immortal Technique or watch SiCKO or some other Micheal Moore movie it very well may open your eyes if you think America is a perfect nation... that said I still think America is a good country...but there are a ton of things I hate about it. the best place in the world is probably holland im tired right now so im not sure if its the country im thinking of but it has health insurance for everybody, and its very structured haha, that might be thue, but a lot people who live here think different, to me, my part of holland is the best not the whole country. most of the country call me farmer when I say where I'm from but about america, from the outside it do looks like americans think their country is better (god bless america) but I know not all americans say that
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Post by Alter on Aug 17, 2007 11:31:16 GMT
the "best" country is switzerland. low crime, clean, safe, neutral, rich. it's just really boring apparently.
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Post by KB-S on Aug 17, 2007 22:59:42 GMT
ROFLMAOO.. So go to Switzerland if you wanna be safe.. Clean.. Neutral.. Rich.. And bored.. Gotcha..
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Post by fashur on Aug 19, 2007 22:21:18 GMT
my cousins own a hotel in switzerland i havent got to visit them yet though
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Post by obietrice on Aug 20, 2007 8:48:55 GMT
I think many people hate the usa because people judge on things they know, people from asia or europe only know celecrities from america, and most celebrities do weird things
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Post by Versatile on Aug 20, 2007 13:17:21 GMT
the "best" country is switzerland. low crime, clean, safe, neutral, rich. it's just really boring apparently. well ive been in switzerland, i went snowboarding there on the mountains and i can say, allmost everybody has got expensive cars there. the prizes are very high, becoz everybody has got a lot of money. only the oil prizes are low they also stayed out of ww2, becoz hitler couldnt attack switzerland in the mountains. so their economy didnt went down. another reason why its so great is, that they didnt accept the euro (money i mean). in holland all the prizes went higher when the euro came. but switzerland didnt want the euro, becoz of their economy so its maybe the best country, but not for me. coz switzerland is more selfish than most other countries
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Post by Rє-เLL on Sept 13, 2007 17:34:22 GMT
I'm going to educate you all why US is fucking hated from an alliance opoint of veiw anyway....
UK are allies with your country..let me tell you somthing we fuckin' hate your country and your leader, cause our old leader has cost us over 300 civilians and soliders alike. well we on the topic of war...You litterally teabag missled like 10 of our men. our country FOR SOME reason is ment to follow yours yet you joined the second world war and gained the credit. now then Iraq NO RIGHT to go there, you never found Nuclear weps, never got oil off it (selfish -smh.) and I won't take it away from the UK tony blair wanted a cut and the war in iraq is fucked...IT WILL NEVER END. I hate the fact you guys always try to bust on the british..and ILL tell yuo why that is, american was once a british owned country, and you fuckers think we owe you somthing so you think ya'll can make jokes, then again, FAT FUCKS..see stereotypes are bullshit. Anyway, I'm done..thats a Alliance veiw of the fucking hatred you guys TRUELY deserve and anyone who dissagrees with me is either arrogant, dumb or ignorant.
I could go on...but I only got like 60 more years to live. Then again, Britains fairly hated too.
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Post by Ayce on Nov 23, 2007 19:19:06 GMT
most people hate america, cuz they get into wars n we won't help em, or they blame us for "creating" hitler, or helping israel, to all those haters: Fuck you.
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