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Post by Forward Bound on Feb 28, 2008 4:02:35 GMT
Might be another thread, feels this belongs here more then general.
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Post by Forward Bound on Feb 28, 2008 4:33:21 GMT
Honestly the election is a mind fuck right now to me. Let's break it down Hillary Clinton, I doubt she could focus on the entire country and really better it. Or if she just puts something in effect that can improve certain class of people, but still create a large run around. And cause outrage to those who slightly pass that limit. As for Obama he has a low amount of experience. I mean hasn't dood not even finished his senate?
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Post by InFLuenCe on Feb 28, 2008 8:10:36 GMT
if obama president im sorry but he's getting assassinated it's going to be sad
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Post by Reptillian on Feb 28, 2008 17:01:33 GMT
The person that should win this election won't. It is such a sore sight that we have a someone who whould help this country in every way possable and the media has slayed him. Yes, most of you don't know who I am talking about and the ones that do know he is in fact the best man that has ran for president since JFK. His name is .................... Ron Paul.
Fuck Clinton Fuck Obama Neither of them want to pull our troops out of this meaningless fight cuz they both suck dicks in hell =)
Respect Reptillian
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Post by Forward Bound on Mar 2, 2008 19:01:15 GMT
The person that should win this election won't. It is such a sore sight that we have a someone who whould help this country in every way possable and the media has slayed him. Yes, most of you don't know who I am talking about and the ones that do know he is in fact the best man that has ran for president since JFK. His name is .................... Ron Paul. Fuck Clinton Fuck Obama Neither of them want to pull our troops out of this meaningless fight cuz they both suck dicks in hell =) Respect Reptillian LOL Yeah I am A Ron Paul Supporter, But I Don't Think He Will Become President...He Has A Lot Of Good Ideas, And Can Deal With Alot Of Issues Effectively. Based On What He Has Said...But Ummm....I Doubt It Would Be Safe To Pull Out The Troops From Iraq, Right Now........
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Post by Reptillian on Mar 3, 2008 17:11:39 GMT
I think its the safest couse of action that we can take. There is absoultly no reason what so ever that our troops should be there in the first place.
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Post by Forward Bound on Mar 3, 2008 22:11:54 GMT
Their are troops stationed almost everywhere though. I mean what's the point of helping any country then. Death tolls are the lowest it has been in a while, I think. Need to check on that but if we were to leave now Iran would take over Iraq. And control have of the world's oil, and we would not even have near enough time to raise our technology up to the rate the US use's it. I think if Iraq wasn't such a shitty country, and be able to reach their benchmarks. Since the reason we have been in there is because Iraq has been unable to improve anything, we keep giving the standards to reach. With them not making a single one. We would be good to maybe pull out, if we had a good course of action to prevent Iran taking control.
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Post by 3g.Designs on Mar 4, 2008 1:22:31 GMT
I vote for......ummm.... THE BLACK GUY!!!!!!!!
^ Thats how ignorant our would is......I am on the other hand voting for Obama because i Agree in what he supports and if he stands by his word..... ALOT of things will change for the best before he gets shot....lol
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Post by Forward Bound on Mar 4, 2008 1:47:33 GMT
I think we don't need change, we need improvement
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Post by Reptillian on Mar 4, 2008 14:17:38 GMT
Orlando, Why would iran taking over be such a bad thing??? I think it beats the hell out of keeping our troops there. We are not the international police thats for them to work out. We should keep the fuck out of things that don't concern our country what so ever. If your next arguement is about oil its bullshit too. For the reasons that on american soil we have more than enough oil to maintain. Other countries also have been and will continue to trade with us as well AND IF WE DID NOT GO OVER THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE IRAN WOULD TOO!!!!!! think about that.
Respect Reptillian
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Post by Forward Bound on Mar 4, 2008 21:37:03 GMT
I, agree it's not our job to police the world. Or to protect other countries, but look at it this way. Why do you help out a neighbor, help an old woman with her grocceries, or maybe help someone struggling. Or even give feedback to a topical or written piece?
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Post by Reptillian on Mar 5, 2008 2:21:05 GMT
You do it because you are a kind soul and the person or persona on a website is someone that your in CONTACT WITH.. and you do it out of good intention. This is not the case at all as far as what we have done in Iraq which wasn't the country in the first place that we TAGGED as the reason for 911. We tend to forget that due to the media and its brainwashing of the normal citizens who refuse to think for themselves. If you thought that you would become an old widow's heir in will because of your help it would be closer to what was done to the country of Iraq. The entire situation like I have said was under false pretenses and should have never happened. I also mentioned that it would be the best and safest of all courses of actions to GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE there is no danger to our homeland what so ever none ZERO by Iraq Iran or any other Middle Eastern County period. No but, we do keep sending people in the prime of their lives to die for no reason. Argue this point please so I can shred you further. Respect Reptillian
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Post by Forward Bound on Mar 5, 2008 3:16:34 GMT
I am not arguing this point, if you pull people out soldiers will die. Not everyone can leave at once, and insurgents will attack the remaining bases out there as soon as they can. It's not as simple as "Pull The Fuck Out." And don't think for one second, their not watching the news. And planning this shit out themselves, because this has been done already. There has to be a set plan, that is perfect and diagramed that will make sure that people won't die because their trying to "pull the fuck out." The danger for middle eastern countries is to Iraq, they will be taken over. The people will die, shit's already happening. As for false pre-tenses, 9-11 was a false pretense? Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11? Their wasn't a large amount of Al-Qedia forces within Iraq? I am pretty sure our base was to find Weapons of Mass Destruction, that was are main thing going in there to find. Correct? And we were unsuccessful searching for weapons of mass destruction, but does that mean they are not there? Shit we know Osama is their, but we can't find him either. Now don't get it twisted, im not some war monger. And I am not for war, I am for taking the most suitable course of action. I feel we could have invaded iraq but we didn't complete our task at hand fast enough. It wasn't as mapped out correctly. But you cannot say for one second that we didn't change things. We captured Saddam, and rebuilt a country. And put a giant hole into one of the biggest terriost groups, the Al-Qedia.
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Post by kirby on Mar 5, 2008 3:34:16 GMT
Wat he said x2^
Respect Kurbzz.
Lool, nah...
I dun follow the election.. so imma just stroll outta here now
*leaves
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Post by Reptillian on Mar 5, 2008 3:45:28 GMT
lol if you leave troops there the death toll will never end to cap off your first sentence. Saying that they are not watching the news is a desperate grab at something that has no substance simple put if we do pull out we could do it in one day and not report it just like we have done in every other situation we have went into under false pretenses. Orlando, it seems that YOU are not watching the news when you say they are trying to pull out... No they are not and everyone running for Pres. wants to STAY THERE besides Paul. Now as far as us being Iraq's protectER is just retarded we are the ones that have reduced them to a struggling whipping boy at best.. Iraq had been a decent country for much longer than the United States has even been in recorded history. Yes Orlando 911 was a the biggest false pretense I have ever witnessed just because of the actions of three or four NON MILLITARY people no matter what their connections does not mean you go to war with that country. On top of that fact the real fact of the matter is that no planes no matter How much jet fuel they had on board could have brought down the two towers that were hit LETS NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE ONE THAT WASNT HIT that fell on the same day in the exact same fashion. No, Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11 nothing at all pay attention it was suppose to be BIN LADEN but it wasn't it was more than likely that Santa Clause did it. Al-Qedia is something that the United States Central Intelligence Agency started and to directly answer your question no there has never been a LARGE Al Qedia force thats all bullshit. Weapons of mass destruction were never have never and will never be found there this was also bullshit Open your fucking eyes. If weapons were there they REALLY SHOULD have found them BY NOW RIGHT!!! Osama there lmmfao dude we shot a fucking spy sat down that was traveling 13 thousand miles an hour that we have no vision of but we cant find a 6 foot 6 Arab on dialisis get the fuck outta here. Orland you don't seem to be a war monger but a very misinformed person that has not really sat and came to your own conclusion on this subject but, rather listened to a bunch of bullshit that was fed to you. Next up no we shouldn't have invaded any country but how about hmmm i don't know ooooohahhahaoooooooooooooooooooooooahhahhah i know how about an INVESTIGATION BEFORE A WAR that might have been good. We had no reason to go in and change anything there it wasn't our bussness in the first place and blowing the country to bits until it can't fend off the opponents it had been fighting with since the dawn of written history was not an upgrade for them. We have kinda rebuilt what we destroyed but it hasn't gone well and has cost us so much money that all of the tax payers in our country are now feeling the effects of this retarded war on an idea that can't end and has no meaning. and to cap it all off i will say that AL Qedia may be a terriost group but its not IRAQ'S group no it indeed belongs to the CIA. EAT IT Respectfully Reptillian p.s. please feel free to look up or ask or even argue any of these FACTS thanks!
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Post by Forward Bound on Mar 5, 2008 3:58:40 GMT
So the lives don't really mean anything to you then? Based on your first sentence, you really don't care who dies. It seems you are more focused on how this has costed us in tax, but fuck it another few hundred soldiers dead who cares. That's not the real reason, I want out of the war? And Actually you said that the news tries to brainwash us in a previous post..Then you say you watch nothing but the news. And we can't find Osama he's being well protected probably by the forces we are currently working with. He is one of the most loved in the middle east. You know some things you can do, and somethings you can't. Everything I am saying is what I heard from soldiers, not a Moore documentary or a speech, even the news. And hell if the soldiers don't have it right, I don't many others do. So let's say we built Al-Qedia, doesn't mean we control it. I mean shit we created mustard and chlorine bombs way back, and our intent was too win the war. But it effected the soldiers, we didn't control it. We couldn't.
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Post by Reptillian on Mar 5, 2008 4:06:28 GMT
NO YOU ASSHOLE I care much more than the bitches that sent the men to war in the first place. What I said is that pulling out our troops is the most effective course of action to minimize the number of American lives that will be lost. I never said that all I watch is the news WHERE the hell are you getting that wow.. No I do research and came to my own conclusions this is all public record orlando. Everything you said past the first two sentences there means nothing to me cuz I couldn't give a fuck about "Moore" No I am more interested in our country. Even if you reread what you printed after that you will see that its just nonsence and doesn't relate to what we have been talking about.
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Post by Forward Bound on Mar 5, 2008 4:27:10 GMT
If you read through all my posts I have agreed with you. I said that we should pull out, but it wasn't like we accomplished nothing. And I never said we were pulling out, you said I said that. And I should be watching news more, which infered to me that you watch a lot of the news.
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Post by Reptillian on Mar 5, 2008 15:11:44 GMT
... word
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Post by Forward Bound on Mar 5, 2008 20:40:08 GMT
I will bow out in defeat, since I have nothing more to say. lol
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