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Post by Akshun on Nov 21, 2007 23:22:48 GMT
Seeing as most of the members dont fully understand what this board is here for, ill start it off with a topic. This is a board to debate problems that effect us all etc. Big problems not personal problems. This one is on Abortion which is a controversial topic right now. Now even though theres negative women on this forum, we can still get somewhere with this topic.
This has been taken from proboards support.
Abortions. Should they be allowed? There are alot of arguments either way, on religious, moral, political and scientific ground.
Yes:
1.To help parents who can't care for a child.
2.To avoid bringing another child into a world where there is already hunger.
3.Thinking it wouldn't live a good life.
4.Because of a parents inability to care for a child.
No:
1.It has been compared to murder, and from some peoples percpective, it is.
2.You are taking a life without letting it speak for itself.
3.Some religions are against it.
4.Because that child could live to be something great.
Post your opinions, please cite your facts, and keep it clean!!
DO NOT attack people personally, insult, make it a flame war, go off-topic, or attack someones motives or morales, or this i will lock this topic. Keep it clean, and don't kill this topic. and please dont leave one word/line replies.
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Post by CJM on Nov 21, 2007 23:33:45 GMT
Personally, I believe there should be abortion, but i believe that the Deadline of 20 Weeks i think it is should be lowered, Because truly, that is Murder in a way, 20 Week old child, Which if you check Phoetus developments, they are pretty much fully developed, ive seen programs where children of 22 weeks live, It should be made known that Parents-To-Be cant mess around with the system... and think they'll keep it, then half there pregnancy later, decide for an abortion, But I dont agree with your point 4 of 'No'. I dont think that you should Believe that the child will become 'Something-Great', I mean, Surely every parent wishes the best for their child, and dreams that they'll be successful, so its just contradictive of what they've thought/dreamt/said before. And i think, the religions that are against it, are under the most scrutiny about it, because they 'Try not to get pregnant', But 9 times out of 10 they do, and they end up with numerous children, and not enough money to feed, or put clothes on their backs. But your point one on 'Yes', i completely agree with, Because personally, I'd rather Die a young child, Not even have feelings yet, than be born, and live a life of suffering, and I dont think im the only one. But also, if they feel they have adequate cover for the child, then realise they cant take care of him/her, and put them into Child Services, is fairer than keeping the child and living a poor life, But in a way, after seeing some of the News issues about abortions, I believe that there should be a Strict law, and that families should be limited to 2 Children, but I suppose 'Accidents Happen', But they should be dealt with Early, im talking 1-10 weeks, no more, After that they begin getting feelings,limbs etc.
On a whole its unfair.
And i saw a program about abortions, and it said that aborting a 20 Week baby, once they stick the 'Scraper' up there to Scrape the child out, that the Child screams, now for me, thats absolutely Sick.. I mean, Come on.. That is Painfully Murdering a Minor who's defenseless.
I believe Abortions should be lowered, in terms of Weeks.
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Post by Itz60 on Nov 22, 2007 9:28:28 GMT
..^Wow..He Wrote Alot..Ima Say Itz Right An I Believe Itz Tha Womans Choice..Because She Shuldnt Have To Have A Baby If Itz Not Made Outta Love(1 Nite Stand.Rape.Etc..)
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Post by DAF on Nov 23, 2007 17:26:40 GMT
See, thats bullshit because a woman has a choice to put on a condom also, alot of young teenagers who have abortions usually get pregnant from having sex with their partner. I understand it's her choice but it's fucked up in a way to kill the baby/embrio or w.e it is lol.
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Post by 1msg on Nov 23, 2007 18:43:22 GMT
Word@ DAF.. wear a damn condom and you wouldn't have to worry about abortion.. i feel personally if you can see any form of the damn baby inside of the womb, its living point blank.. don't try to sugar coat it and say " Oh no, the baby doesn't have all of its body parts yet, its not technically alive".. Fukk out of here, the Doctors and Parents KNOW what it will be, so its a living being already in my opinion. and even if the baby Came About through rape or w/e, does that give you the right to kill the child? just put the baby up for adoption.. smh@ Abortions all 2gether. if you have the ability to Give Birth, do it.. it might hurt but if you do an Abortion, thats fukked up completely.. i seen a show on it, step-by-step tearing the ligaments of the baby within the womb... using all types of tools to kill this living being.. and one more thing about abortions is that the mother that went through it goes through Emotional Hell days/weeks/years later because of the child she "Could've Had".. i have no sympathy for mothers that go through with abortions, its a heartless act of Legal Cruelty.
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Post by Ayce on Nov 23, 2007 19:00:35 GMT
i think, if you have an abortion, before the fetus has it's heart its not truly murder, but if it has a heart when u do it, then it is, enough said.
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Post by CJM on Nov 23, 2007 20:01:17 GMT
even if the baby Came About through rape or w/e, does that give you the right to kill the child? I would if I could have a baby, and even if it was kept and placed up for adoption, theres still the guilt of bringing an un-planned/raped child into the world, especially when you explain how they were conceived. |
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Post by 1msg on Nov 23, 2007 20:19:24 GMT
there's something called "Lying for someone Else's Well Being" @ Prolific.. you don't have to say "Oh yeah, i got raped one day.. and you came about 9months later, sorry hun" lol, i mean.. just stretch the truth a little by saying something like "Your father was someone i didn't plan on being with, but from me being with him came a beautiful young child  " .. THATs how you handle that situation lol, i got skills ;D |
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Post by Bleu. on Nov 23, 2007 22:08:32 GMT
Abortion = Homocide
That's disgusting how you can kill your own child. Those people should be killed. I understand if you get raped, but even for that theres the TMAP. I don't understand why they are not charged with murder. Real talk, Homocide is the conduct that casues the death of a human or an unborn child. Isn't abortion the conduct that causes the death of an unborn child? If your stupid enough to fuck around with someone without rubber live with your mistake. Abortion is a pussy cop out, you can't cop out of shit all you life. A baby is something that's part of you, it's your own child, it's an extension of you and if your heartless enough you should be killed yourself. Who cares if it can't have a good life? it's much better to see this world once, than to never see it. Did the baby ask for you to lend your pussy out to every dick you can find? No.
in the words of NYoil they should all be lynched.
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Post by Jay The Verbal Reaper on Nov 23, 2007 23:18:03 GMT
Killing it? OMG, to me, those opinions are trash, no offense! Look, it isnt murder before it has a heart, or whatever, its mostly a thing, like a bean! In my opinion, abortions depend on people! If a poor woman who cant feed herself properly is pregnant, I think, before 2 or 3 weeks, she should go through abortion! If I was her, I'd rather kill the baby than letting him live an unhappy life, probably worse! So spare the despair for the child! BEFORE the 2/3 weeks!
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Post by Bleu. on Nov 23, 2007 23:35:09 GMT
Some religion dictates your only on this earth once
You really wanna take that away?
Just becuase they're born poor doesn't mean they'll live poor
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Post by CJM on Nov 23, 2007 23:58:13 GMT
Jay, Your opinion was practically what i said, Hows that trash if your belief's the same.
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Post by kaluluwa on Nov 24, 2007 2:16:03 GMT
while I personally am against abortion, i feel that it is the parent's right to have an abortion if she feels that it is the best decision. however, i feel that the best decision would be to put the baby up for adoption, seeing as how there are many people out there who would be willing to love and care for the child like it was their own.
abortion is murder. even if you don't think the fetus is "alive" yet, there is still the possibility that it will receive life. once you abort the child, you are extinguishing that hope of life, which I see as murder.
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Post by Alter on Nov 24, 2007 11:42:09 GMT
i'm with message here...
put it up for adoption at worst... and anyone having an unplanned kid (unless the condom or contraceptive didn't work.. and even still, they took that risk..) can get lynched if they aren't gonna care (unless they want to, but genuinely can't offer the child shit. and put it for adoption)
a rape child is still a child
a death is a death
who's hands are the blood on?
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Post by aKaDeMiKz on Nov 24, 2007 13:15:23 GMT
This is what i dont get.. some one gets stab or shot or commits a homicdal type of crime and thats murder, the perpatrator goes to jail because it is murder.
a doctor takes away a babies life by abortion, All of a sudden murder is alright?
I Dont get it. Its Alll Murder. Its a child either way. as soon as the damn sperm connected with the egg. its an embryo which in turn is a child in the early stages of pregnancy. Jus because it doesnt have a heart doesnt mean sumwun got the right to shove a scraper up tha girl n scrape it out. Alter has the right idea. a rape child is still a child. if U cannot look after it put it up for adoption. then it may still have a better life. Dont jus go get an abortion. in my opinion this shits disgustin. its murder
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Post by Ayce on Nov 24, 2007 15:00:55 GMT
if the baby doesen't have a heart, it's not murder, if it has a heart. then it is.
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Post by kaluluwa on Nov 24, 2007 15:45:25 GMT
if the baby doesen't have a heart, it's not murder, if it has a heart. then it is. ok, so if you're having a heart transplant, and someone busts into the room when you don't actually have a heart inside you and takes you out Rambo-style, it's not murder? |
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Post by aKaDeMiKz on Nov 24, 2007 16:10:26 GMT
LMFAO @ Rambo style
Lmfao.... oh shittt..lmfaooo
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Post by Ayce on Nov 24, 2007 16:32:54 GMT
Well that is, but we all have our opinions, if ur heart is out, u aint really alive technically therefore, ur already dead, k thnx have a nice day
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Post by Jay The Verbal Reaper on Nov 24, 2007 17:37:58 GMT
Ayce... FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!
And GK, put him up to adoption? I know peeps who were put to them adoption centers, they all tell me same thing... its a horrible life! They're put there until 18 years, and the ones who get lucky and/or unlucky go to parents who treat them good or bad!
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