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Post by J-A-Y on Jul 11, 2008 4:33:55 GMT
I think religion was created to explain things back in the day people couldn't. Also every human has different leadership quality's and wants to be a leader no matter what you say, that instinct also makes you feel if your not that, someone is leading you. A good example of the "not being able to explain" would be the greek gods, they had a god for almost everything because they couldnt explain how somthing worked, happened, or occured. It also makes people feel more comfortable aswell to know or beleive (thats a better word) thats\ someones watching over them.
this is just my opinion, and it's why i think religion was "created" not why people still "beleive" in it and god.
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 17, 2008 6:42:20 GMT
how can i take this discussion seriously, the topic is, " why god excist "
LMAO
r u serious?
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 17, 2008 6:42:54 GMT
Even if Exist was spelled right it would be " Why God Exist "
Wtf does that mean lol?
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Post by JFX on Jul 18, 2008 16:27:41 GMT
The person who made it up dosent speak english
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Post by Krucial on Jul 18, 2008 18:58:11 GMT
Back to my point... Alter said -
"Now use the example of people who've seen their best friend under a truck, and flipped it over. That's something that would normally rip their muscles to pieces, but in extreme duress they mind over matter, and they do it.'
This is because your body CAN do this, it is physically possible, your body just doesnt let you because of the risk of permenant muscle damage. Just like when someone is eletrecuted they are flung 10's of metres from where they were shocked due to their muscles violently retracting/contracting. Now, thats because it IS humanly possible, minds can create images that YOU thoroughly believe are true, such as imaginery friends, some of which stay with you your whole life, but you cannot however create something in your mind that you have never seen before and that other people can see.
Which brings me back to another thing you said... "Imagine cheryl cole" My mind fills no gaps, because I have seen her before, like I said, the mind cant create what it hasnt seen before. If you had not seen a human before, you could not imagine one, its impossible.
Everyone has dreams, visions and ideas, hence why there are so many relgions. If there was a REAL god that REAL people had witnessed and seen then do you really think they'd go "Oh, forget him, ill write a massive book and create someone else" No, they wouldnt, religion is based on ideas, nothing else.
If you people still do not understand what im getting at. Kill yourself.
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 19, 2008 2:13:29 GMT
^ There are REAL people who have seen our very REAL God
SMH...
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Post by ‘ J. Crow ’ on Jul 19, 2008 2:18:08 GMT
there have been REAL people who claim to have seen big foot, loch ness monster, and tons of other shit..
ur point is ?
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Post by Bleu. on Jul 19, 2008 3:33:35 GMT
I find it hard to believe the Earth was just .. here. (Or whatever was here first). Things couldn't have BEEN.
I think of it as 1 of 2 things. Either there's 1 god and different religions describe him in a different way. Or, there are several different gods, thus different religions.
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Post by Bleu. on Jul 19, 2008 3:44:32 GMT
Back to my point... Alter said - "Now use the example of people who've seen their best friend under a truck, and flipped it over. That's something that would normally rip their muscles to pieces, but in extreme duress they mind over matter, and they do it.'This is because your body CAN do this, it is physically possible, your body just doesnt let you because of the risk of permenant muscle damage. Just like when someone is eletrecuted they are flung 10's of metres from where they were shocked due to their muscles violently retracting/contracting. Now, thats because it IS humanly possible, minds can create images that YOU thoroughly believe are true, such as imaginery friends, some of which stay with you your whole life, but you cannot however create something in your mind that you have never seen before and that other people can see. Which brings me back to another thing you said... "Imagine cheryl cole" My mind fills no gaps, because I have seen her before, like I said, the mind cant create what it hasnt seen before. If you had not seen a human before, you could not imagine one, its impossible. Everyone has dreams, visions and ideas, hence why there are so many relgions. If there was a REAL god that REAL people had witnessed and seen then do you really think they'd go "Oh, forget him, ill write a massive book and create someone else" No, they wouldnt, religion is based on ideas, nothing else. If you people still do not understand what im getting at. Kill yourself. That's purely based on the judgment that there is one god if there was god(s), but such a divine force doesn't have to be restricted to one entity. What if different people seen different gods?
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Post by ‘ J. Crow ’ on Jul 19, 2008 4:05:38 GMT
I find it hard to believe the Earth was just .. here. (Or whatever was here first). Things couldn't have BEEN. I think of it as 1 of 2 things. Either there's 1 god and different religions describe him in a different way. Or, there are several different gods, thus different religions. then how did "the gods" or "god" appear ? they must of just ...appeared here if u dont think the earth could do that ..what makes gods appearing out of nothingness appeal to you >?
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Post by kirby on Jul 19, 2008 4:10:04 GMT
If some image/figure just appeard and expecting you to worship it,... would you??
seem's kinda like... we were stuck up.
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 19, 2008 5:07:10 GMT
there have been REAL people who claim to have seen big foot, loch ness monster, and tons of other shit.. ur point is ? I dont know. whats ur point? that was totally irrelevant Are you denying the birth of Jesus Christ? Or the story of Moses? then youre a fool
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Post by ‘ J. Crow ’ on Jul 19, 2008 5:44:20 GMT
there have been REAL people who claim to have seen big foot, loch ness monster, and tons of other shit.. ur point is ? I dont know. whats ur point? that was totally irrelevant Are you denying the birth of Jesus Christ? Or the story of Moses? then youre a fool it was a comment to ur above statement that was totally relevant in ur discussion, and moses ? are u saying that it rained for how many months it was straight >?
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Post by Bleu. on Jul 19, 2008 15:52:56 GMT
I find it hard to believe the Earth was just .. here. (Or whatever was here first). Things couldn't have BEEN. I think of it as 1 of 2 things. Either there's 1 god and different religions describe him in a different way. Or, there are several different gods, thus different religions. then how did "the gods" or "god" appear ? they must of just ...appeared here if u dont think the earth could do that ..what makes gods appearing out of nothingness appeal to you >? But that's where god's divinity plays a role. We know most of what their is to know about the Earth, there isn't anything really supernatural about it, where as if god was real obviously there would something where supernatural about him. To be honest I find hard to fathom ANYTHING just appearing out of know where, and just "was" and that's how things started, but I find it easier to believe god just appeared and was the first thing ever in relativity to the earth just appearing and being the first thing ever.
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 19, 2008 17:36:34 GMT
I dont know. whats ur point? that was totally irrelevant Are you denying the birth of Jesus Christ? Or the story of Moses? then youre a fool it was a comment to ur above statement that was totally relevant in ur discussion, and moses ? are u saying that it rained for how many months it was straight >? ^ Thats Noah you dumb fuck
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Post by ‘ J. Crow ’ on Jul 19, 2008 20:15:59 GMT
it was a comment to ur above statement that was totally relevant in ur discussion, and moses ? are u saying that it rained for how many months it was straight >? ^ Thats Noah you dumb fuck Lol, now now ..no need to bring beef into the deep thinking discussion ...anywhich way its still part of the bible, and ain't all of that shit suppose to be real ? ..so my point still kinda stands, u believe in noah and his story ?
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Post by Krucial on Jul 20, 2008 10:52:15 GMT
There is really no point arguing with bible bashers. They are so wrapped up in their little saviour bullshit that they are oblivious to the vast evidence stacked against their fairtytale. GOD DOESNT EXIST! Grow up and stop reading your story book.
And I have a question.
What actually makes you believe in God? Like what actually swings the argument your way. Because your parents believe it? Because people have "seen" him? Because of the bible?
Tell me, please.
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Post by Bleu. on Jul 20, 2008 20:01:10 GMT
There is really no point arguing with bible bashers. They are so wrapped up in their little saviour bullshit that they are oblivious to the vast evidence stacked against their fairtytale. GOD DOESNT EXIST! Grow up and stop reading your story book. And I have a question. What actually makes you believe in God? Like what actually swings the argument your way. Because your parents believe it? Because people have "seen" him? Because of the bible? Tell me, please. I'm kinda stuck wondering what the real problem is? If people choose to believe in god, what's your beef? Who are YOU to tell someone not to believe in god, and flame people who do. Even if god isn't real, religion keeps you in check. You always have those thoughts in the back of your mind like "Nah, this shit aint morally right in accordance to my religion" and that can be something life saving. God existent or NOT, saves lives, and prevents death, because people have something to put their faith into. If everyone didn't believe in god, the world would be a different place, for the worse. Your so hard on evolution and science? explain to me THESE things. Scientists still can't even explain the female orgasm, yet they can explain our origins? wow.. What is dark matter? most of this shit makes up the universe YET it can't be explained using any model of physics or law of physics. ESP has been proven to be very real, YET science can't explain it. Ghost's, exorcisms, and other worldly spirits have not only been seen, but documented, and I'm curious to hear how science or "evolution" explains this. Fuck outta here dude, your out of line. What if I said Evolution was just for people with shitty lives who lost faith in god because of their quality of life was ass.
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Post by Krucial on Jul 20, 2008 20:37:28 GMT
I did not say your wrong to believe in God. I said your stupid to believe in god. My opinion and im fully entitled to it.
Of course there are things people cannot explain, but soon enough they will find the answers to it. Just because people cant or dont have the resources to discover how comething was created it doesnt mean that a bearded man magically made it.
Dude, come on, you and I both know thats bullshit. Dont bring that fake ass shit into here for the sake of your argument.
I dont mind people following a religion, as long as they are fully aware that there are other explanations to the world. If they use religion to "keep in check" then thats cool.
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 20, 2008 21:28:38 GMT
There is really no point arguing with bible bashers. They are so wrapped up in their little saviour bullshit that they are oblivious to the vast evidence stacked against their fairtytale. GOD DOESNT EXIST! Grow up and stop reading your story book. And I have a question. What actually makes you believe in God? Like what actually swings the argument your way. Because your parents believe it? Because people have "seen" him? Because of the bible? Tell me, please. It's my belief. Thats what I put my faith in Do you have any faith? Probably not. Anything you have faith in other than God isnt really all that important anyway
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