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Post by JFX on Jul 20, 2008 21:33:08 GMT
Im Catholic and to be honest i find some of the religious stories intresting,Dont ask why but ive just recently taken a instrest for some reason.
Religion has helped me with what is atm the toughest time of my life (some of you know why) and its give me a better look on things, i dont know if there's a god but i belive in him just cause it gives me strength emotionally so its kinda helpful i guess but i tend to not think about it.
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Post by Bleu. on Jul 20, 2008 22:06:24 GMT
I did not say your wrong to believe in God. I said your stupid to believe in god. My opinion and im fully entitled to it. Of course there are things people cannot explain, but soon enough they will find the answers to it. Just because people cant or dont have the resources to discover how comething was created it doesnt mean that a bearded man magically made it. Dude, come on, you and I both know thats bullshit. Dont bring that fake ass shit into here for the sake of your argument. I dont mind people following a religion, as long as they are fully aware that there are other explanations to the world. If they use religion to "keep in check" then thats cool. There ARE other explanations, I know what evolution is vaguely, but in society everyone has the right to choose what they believe WITHOUT being ridiculed for it. Being someone who believes in evolution and saying people who believe god are "stupid" is like a Christian dude calling you the "anti-Christ" for not believing in god. Clearly your not the anti-Christ, and I'm not stupid. A day might come when things like dark matter and cold fusion are scientifically explainable. But I really doubt exorcisms or spirits can be scientifically explained. I'm not ruling it out completely, but it's extremely doubtful when things like "demons" have such a strong connection to religion.
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 21, 2008 3:15:05 GMT
Im Catholic and to be honest i find some of the religious stories intresting,Dont ask why but ive just recently taken a instrest for some reason. Religion has helped me with what is atm the toughest time of my life (some of you know why) and its give me a better look on things, i dont know if there's a god but i belive in him just cause it gives me strength emotionally so its kinda helpful i guess but i tend to not think about it. well thats good you just need a little more faith God is real my friend. I AM Is Real
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Post by reincarnated on Jul 21, 2008 5:42:17 GMT
God exists, i cant believe theres people who don't think God exists in a music Forum.. HIP HOP MUSIC FORUM. now if u really know a lot about hip hop then you would obviously know that the devil (Lucifer) exists. Now of every bad theres a good, right?
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Post by detox on Jul 21, 2008 18:33:59 GMT
god lies within your own conscience.
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Post by kirby on Jul 21, 2008 18:40:23 GMT
Yeah^, right beside those 14 philipino hooker's I forever havta live with
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Post by JFX on Jul 21, 2008 19:28:01 GMT
Lol^
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 21, 2008 21:57:18 GMT
God exists, i cant believe theres people who don't think God exists in a music Forum.. HIP HOP MUSIC FORUM. now if u really know a lot about hip hop then you would obviously know that the devil (Lucifer) exists. Now of every bad theres a good, right? what do you mean?
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Post by reincarnated on Jul 22, 2008 1:30:22 GMT
i mean niggaz frum the hood don't get shot, survive and get rich az a mawwfucka like its meant to happen,and even if it is, itz been happenin a bit too much
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 22, 2008 3:20:37 GMT
so what does Lucifer have to do with that
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Post by reincarnated on Jul 22, 2008 5:08:41 GMT
Take a seat this iz gonn be a long ass read ma nigga Basically i think that Hip Hop is evil because it fucks ur head up, causes violence , and puts ur mind on money, hoez, fast cars, & wuteva. I read somewhere that before Lucifer got kicked out of heaven he was a musician but i`m not gonna get into that. I`mma skip all the bullshit and get to the main point. If you get shot or have a near death experience the devil will come to you and say something like this "You're dead right now but i can bring you back to life and make you rich and famous if you give me your soul". This only happens depending on how you lived your life, if u went to church everyday and prayed a lot the devil will obviously not tempt you, but if u sold crack and did sum bad ass shit then the devil will tempt you"
Now lets take a look at some of these rappers: 50 cent - took 9 bullets and survived, now is a half billionaire and jus as he was going broke he gets a $400 million dolla cheque from vitamin water or sumthn like dat The Game- Got shot survived, and now is a millionaire and famous Snoop Dogg- Openly admitted that he died and the devil brought him back to life after selling his soul for fame and riches
Now heres where shit gets interesting, Cassidy was involved in some beef and caught a homicide case and spent about a year in prison. Now we all know that killing is the biggest sin of all right?... Dont know how the fuck he got out after 1 year (The Devil's Plan maybe hmm lol) So soon after this guy gets out hes in a car wit his boyz drivin around and a U-HAUL TRUCK hits the passenger side of his car (where he was sitting). Now i`m thinkin either God was striking him for commiting murder or the devil came to him and cassidy refused the offer because this guy dropped an album which was the most anticipated sht ever and it flopped.. 40k IN A WEEK, all cause he was rapping about how the Lord saved his life. NOW DONT GET ME STARTED ON THIS LONG HAIR DONT CARE NIGGA LIL WAYNE cuz dats enuff lecture fo now 1 tyme
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Post by Thinker Thought on Jul 22, 2008 11:44:28 GMT
Take a seat this iz gonn be a long ass read ma nigga Basically i think that Hip Hop is evil because it fucks ur head up, causes violence , and puts ur mind on money, hoez, fast cars, & wuteva. I read somewhere that before Lucifer got kicked out of heaven he was a musician but i`m not gonna get into that. You really need to reference a point like that. Before getting kicked out, he was just an ordinary angel, not a musician. One of many sources which proves this point.I want to know where you obtain your ideology. How do you know that the Devil speaks, and says words roughly like those, to someone having a near death experience? Having a near death experience can happen either when someone is clinically dead, or in a situation where they have a high chance of dying. During a near death experience, after the organs in the body die, the brain takes one last attempt to save the body, by flooding the brain with Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) from the Pineal Gland. DMT is a hallucinogenic drug, and the effects provide basis for this common theory for the reason for the out-of-body and "life flashing before the eyes" experiences. DMT is hallucinogenic, so it would provide cause for people to think the Devil spoke to them when they were about to die when that is not true, so this theory negates the supernatural intervention in such situations. If the supernatural is to be considered real, then it might be that the Devil COULD tempt people in their near death states, but usually when experiencing a NDE, a person feels: 1. A very unpleasant sound/noise is the first sensory impression to be noticed (R. Moody: Life after Life); 2. A sense of being dead; 3. Pleasant emotions; calmness and serenity; 4. An out-of-body experience; a sensation of floating above one's own body and seeing the surrounding area; 5. A sensation of moving upwards through a bright tunnel of light or narrow passageway; 6. Meeting deceased relatives or spiritual figures; 7. Encountering a being of light, or a light (often interpreted as being the deity or deities they personally believe in); 8. Being given a life review; 9. Reaching a border or boundary; 10. A feeling of being returned to the body, often accompanied by a reluctance. 11. Feeling of warmth even though naked. I suppose a meeting with the Devil could come under number 6, but usually these hallucinations come from ones own memory, which makes deceased relatives a more likely option. I interpret "spiritual figures" as spiritual figures in ones own life, so if someone doesn't worship the Devil himself, they most likely won't see him during the NDE. Of course, this is only deduced from my own research into NDE's (a Ted Dekker book I read got me interested about a month ago). Source: Wikipedia (well referenced).That doesn't prove Hip Hop is evil. Source? Actually, killing isn't considered the "biggest sin of all". The "biggest sin of all", or as it is believed, the "unforgivable" sin, is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, i.e. being engaged in Witchcraft/Pagan religions and directly opposing God. But onto your actual point, the only reason Cassidy got off the charges was because the man who testified against Cassidy admitted he lied to police in the beginning, and that he didn't see Cassidy fire a weapon. So there COULD be some divine intervention there, but I doubt it. It wasn't "soon after" the murder case. It was 8 months after he was released from prison. I'm not sure what you meant by "soon", but really I wouldn't even see any coincidence in the dates. Lil' Wayne? Care to explain? I wouldn't call Hip Hop, or any other genre of music evil. What do you say about the claims that a majority of Blues musicians sell their souls to the Devil? What about genres of Metal which are known for Satanism having Christian influences? What do you say about Christian Hip Hop? There are hundreds of artists in the genre, and most are well-devoted Christians, so I'd want to see your take on the "evil" within them. And do you think you could find some religious articles about Hip Hop being of the devil? I'd be interested in reading..
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Post by Pair...uh...Noya? on Jul 22, 2008 12:10:49 GMT
+rep for that TT, seriously good shit. Didn't know any of that about DMT.
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Post by kirby on Jul 22, 2008 12:17:47 GMT
LOL at this kid...
am I the only one who see's irony in this kid naming himself 'reincarnated'
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Post by Bleu. on Jul 22, 2008 19:38:13 GMT
The only credible thing in that post was the snoop dogg bit, which I heard as well. But it probably isn't true. I seriously doubt someone brought back by the devil starts a children's football league..doesn't really seem like the devilish thing to do.
Other than that, it was an epic fail of a post. 50 cent getting shot 9 times and becoming a mill/billionaire has nothing to do with the devil. It's not like the money was handed to him or some shit, dude worked for it.
It's not like he's always been on top after the shooting. I mean look at TOS .. and its sales ..
Sad.
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 22, 2008 20:52:39 GMT
reincarnated you make sense. This is not the first time I have heard that, thats why I was asking you to elabortate.
do you have any links? thats some interesting shit
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Post by kirby on Jul 22, 2008 21:05:12 GMT
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Post by d' Nero on Jul 22, 2008 21:11:19 GMT
SMH
DDT YA SELF KURBZZ
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Post by reincarnated on Jul 23, 2008 3:03:28 GMT
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Post by reincarnated on Jul 23, 2008 4:01:04 GMT
Another Thing.. God wants us to be all equal since we are all made in the image of God, we are all the same, now if you choose to sell your soul to be famous or "stand out among others" you are being like Lucifer who tried to oppose God by trying to be different.
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