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Post by Alter on Feb 6, 2009 11:51:44 GMT
So i heard a while back, that apparently in the UK they're considering lowering the leggal age (16) to 14.
Imo that's pretty fucked up, and in a lotta senses i think even 16 is too young (now that i'm past that age), but that's not for me to debate just yet.
My question is, what do you guys think of this, and also what do you guys consider a legit legal age (Along with any other requirements) for someone's first time?
If we're talking law by the way, state whether you mean universally, or in the uK, US, Canada, France, Papa New Guinea or wherever though.
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Post by Thinker Thought on Feb 6, 2009 12:39:56 GMT
It really depends on the exact law though. Most countries do have a certain age of consent, but with some exceptions.
In Australia the law is that the age of consent is 16, unless the person is less than 2 years older then the person. So realistically the law could be interpreted as being legal for a 10-year-old to have sex with an 8-year-old. I think this law is fair, and with that exception it doesn't really matter what the legal age is.
But how effective is the law?
The law is in place to avoid pedophilia (obviously) and to give cultural and legal guidelines to what age is accpetable to have sex at.
If a 15-year-old thinks she's really in love with this 20-year-old and they go off and have sex illegally, who's going to stop them? What's going to happen? That's where I suppose there is some lenience in the law; only if it's non-consensual or regretted can charges be made. If both parties agree then they will keep it quiet and no action will be taken.
I'm not sure what good can come from lowering it though. Have any reasons been reported? It would be unethical to institute IQ tests or licenses for people to have sex. I'd propose a system like we have here in Australia, it seems to work well in my opinion.
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Post by Alter on Feb 6, 2009 14:27:03 GMT
^You said one really key thing there:
What about the 15 year old who thought she was in love, but then later in life regrets losing her virginity to dude? Or finds out he'd been mistreating her for years? Ends up with something?
etc
Thought I'd pull you up on that wording to open the debate a bit more.
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Post by —»Ph€N¤M«— on Feb 7, 2009 1:33:05 GMT
^You said one really key thing there: What about the 15 year old who thought she was in love, but then later in life regrets losing her virginity to dude? Or finds out he'd been mistreating her for years? Ends up with something? etc Thought I'd pull you up on that wording to open the debate a bit more.
Kidz Are Alwayz Educated About Shit Like That.. Kindergardnerz Know About Sex -.- ..They Choose To Loose They Virginity Itz Their Problem Or Decision.. The Only Positive I Can Think Of For Having A Legal Sex Age Is 2 Prevent Stagetory Rape (When An Underaged.. About Like Under 15 I Think.. Has Sex With A Person Older Regardless Of Consent.. This Is Considered Stagetory Rape) Uh.. Somethin Like That ..Even Here I Still Feel Itz Up To The Person... If A 12 Wanna Fuck A 23 Year Old As Wrong As It Sounds.. Let Em.. As Long As They Know Wat They Doin & They Know The Consequences & They Understand The Consequences.. Society (Friendz & Blah Blah) Probably Wouldnt Allow This Anyway.. Shame On A 23 Year Old Gettin At 12 Year Old Pussy Smh..
Basically.. Havin A Legal Sex Age Infringes Upon A Nigga Rights & Freedoms.. Well.. In Canada.. Cuz It Fuckz With Ur Enjoyment Of Life... Makin The Law Contradict Itself |
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Post by LostMoniker on Feb 7, 2009 2:29:06 GMT
At the tender ages of 14 and even in some cases 16 a lot of teens while developed (females anyways) physically are not developed mentally. Despite what people like Phenom think, emotionally many girls (I use girls intentionally) feel sex is more than what the male generally understands it to be. So a one night stand for a male, will be much more to a 14 year old girl. However, 16 there ARE many girls who are generally more mature at this age, but there are still many that aren't; however I feel 18 is a safe zone not because it's signifies adulthood, but realistically if a guy (who's older than 20) is with a girl who's any younger than that, it's clear his intentions aren't entirely out of the concept of "love".
Another thing I'd like to mention is that a lot of girls who are 14 are also still in the stages of development, so for a man to be with a girl so young just seems ludicrous to me.
Phenom you also don't understand that due to the whole puberty stages of growing from a girl to a women also bring a lot of conflicted emotions, so yes a 12 year old may understand the reality, but won't completely realize the outcome as her being taken advantage of. Many younger girls feel like they're "in love", when that's partly hormones talking. So you cannot say "so let it happen" even if you frown upon it, many older guys take advantage of younger girls because of this and that is completely wrong.
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Post by —»Ph€N¤M«— on Feb 7, 2009 2:41:16 GMT
Meh.. Ppl Have Emotionz.. Feelinz.. Itz All About Controllin Em.. I Think Itz Safe 2 Say For The Most Part Gurlz Mature Faster Than Boyz Do.. I Seen 12 Year Old Gurlz Who Iz More Mature Than A Couple 15 Year Old Dudez.. Lol In All Actuality & Accordin 2 Reality A Legal Sex Age Meanz Nothin.. 12 Year Oldz Is Fuckin.. 16 Year Oldz Is Fuckin.. No Matter Wat Ppl Do.. Shit Happens.. Some Regret It.. Some Dont.. Life Goes On
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Post by LostMoniker on Feb 7, 2009 2:46:28 GMT
Meh.. Ppl Have Emotionz.. Feelinz.. Itz All About Controllin Em.. I Think Itz Safe 2 Say For The Most Part Gurlz Mature Faster Than Boyz Do.. I Seen 12 Year Old Gurlz Who Iz More Mature Than A Couple 15 Year Old Dudez.. Lol In All Actuality & Accordin 2 Reality A Legal Sex Age Meanz Nothin.. 12 Year Oldz Is Fuckin.. 16 Year Oldz Is Fuckin.. No Matter Wat Ppl Do.. Shit Happens.. Some Regret It.. Some Dont.. Life Goes On You don't completely get my point. 12 year old girls REGARDLESS of the maturity they can display, emotionally they think differently than boys or men do. So them fucking a 23 year old guy, is incredibly ridiculous because they aren't completely in tune with their emotions yet to understand the repercussions of what's happening or going to happen to themselves emotionally in the long run. |
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Post by —»Ph€N¤M«— on Feb 7, 2009 2:55:57 GMT
Lol Ye I See That.. Im Jus Tryna Say It Styll Happens... Lol I Kno A 13 Year Old Gurl.. Actually A Few.. In This Situation.. I Try 2 Question Her Motives.. Y She Do Shit Like This.. LOL Her Answer Is Hilarious.. She Sayz "Well.. Itz Hard 2 Explain.. Ppl Wouldnt Understand.. But Itz Better Cuz They Have More Experience.. Another 13 Or 14 Year Old Boy Wouldnt.." ..Other Than That They Live Normal Lives & Dont Show Any Signs Of Emotional Disturbance.. Personally I Think This Shit Aint Right.. Real Fucked Up Actually.. But I Have No Say.. Aint My Body.. Itz Ridiculous 2 Us But Normal 2 Some So Wat Can We Say? We Dont Have Much Say.. Like Wat We Have 2 Say Doesnt Matter 2 Ppl Like That.. I Just Dont See How A Legal Sex Age Can Even Be Enforced
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Post by thatguy08 on Feb 7, 2009 4:20:04 GMT
If a 15-year-old thinks she's really in love with this 20-year-old and they go off and have sex illegally, who's going to stop them? What's going to happen? That's where I suppose there is some lenience in the law; only if it's non-consensual or regretted can charges be made. If both parties agree then they will keep it quiet and no action will be taken. ^ what im thinking (i read after i wrote the comment) i think it honest to god doesnt matter because the government doesnt monitor who is having sex or not kids will be kids yaknow? like its illegal to get head in georgia but is that enforced? its illegal to have anal sex in texas is that enforced? if someone is going to do it then theyll do it reguardless of laws so pretty much kids need to be taught about sex and condoms and that shit as for alter's comment i have to say if your being mistreated youll more than likely realize it after a little while and at least try and do something about it, and if you do truely love someone then most people could give a shit less about diseases its just the way people are |
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Post by InjektionZ on Feb 7, 2009 4:52:03 GMT
I go by this
If there old enough to pee there old enough for me
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Post by thatguy08 on Feb 8, 2009 5:16:42 GMT
^
lol wtf
thats funny as hell
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Post by <^`Boyle`^> on Feb 14, 2009 3:15:19 GMT
Legal sex age...hmmm.
There is one in most countries you can't stop it happening but yeah, if a Little kid has a kid then its gonna be harder for him/her because they aren't mature yet.
I'd add more but I'm fucking nackered.
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Post by CJM on Feb 14, 2009 3:16:43 GMT
Whats wrong with it being 14?
Sex should be allowed at 14, but Children at 16.
Cause lets be real now, these days if you DONT have sex during the later years of school, then theres something wrong.
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Post by <^`Boyle`^> on Feb 14, 2009 3:19:06 GMT
Its not about that its about the fact that theres still a possibillity I know people have sex when there 14, but you think about it If you have a baby when your 13/14 your gonna find it much more difficult, the legal age is really pointless beause its always gonna happen its really just there to make a buffer between children and adults having 'relations'
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Post by Alter on Feb 14, 2009 16:13:28 GMT
IMO Kid's having kids is wrong, but yo @connor how is that true? I know plenty of cats (often due to religious beliefs i will admit) who're still virgins in uni, and I ain't about to rag on them for that, it's their decision. Shit there's some muslim dude in one of the halls near me who you never see without at least 3 fine girls rubbing up on him, but from what I know he's a devout cat so he doesn't do shit, and dude gets mad respect for that. I give more respect to the girls who WON'T give it up easy, so you're wrong there.
I can understand the kinda "you can't get no pussy" bullshit that goes on, don' get me wrong, and I see why dudes would rag on you there, but if someone by CHOICE ain't getting any, then that's their choice so who am I to question it?
Personally though, I still think 16 is a good age, cause it's early enough that kids with no willpower don't have to wait too long, but at the same time, the girl at least should be at a decent level of maturity, and they're gonna be less dependent on parents and more able to look after themselves. also less likely to make mistakes
boyle makes good points though
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Post by «Kü®bẕẕ» on Feb 14, 2009 17:10:09 GMT
17+ is how I look at it.
But in retrospect, you have to look at it like this.
Independence comes sooner and sooner to children as time goes by. Kid's are pushing the envelope these days tryna mature quicker then they really should. Frankly, Ive been on my own since I was 13, so I was forced to be a Man since then, but.. for the kids that arn't as unfortunate as I am, then they should enjoy their childhood.. and the simple things that they wont be able to when they get older, AND SEX SHOULDNT BE ONE OF THEM.
ima stick by 17+
and a HEFTY 17 too, like... 17 and 2/3rds...
LOL
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Post by Alter on Feb 14, 2009 17:34:12 GMT
^LOL Hindsight's great ey?
Cause all the kids want it lowered, and all the adults want it raised.
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Post by SP on Feb 23, 2009 1:31:23 GMT
LOL.
Word.. Seems like LSR members are just forced to grow up young.. Thats why U see our immaturity poppin' out outta' no where at times LOL
Bottom line is this.
It's not a point whether when kids should be havin' sex.. In society blah blah.. NAH
It's to fuckin' CHARGE the ma'fkin' grown ass men and women who wanna do the nasty with lil' kids. And when them kids wanna press charges.
Kids'll be kids. Ppl have sex at a young age. Hell.. U think 13 is young.. Kids doin' it at 10/11 now. So psft.
Me.. I stick to girls my age + a couple years.. Hookups. I'll stretch a year younger. Wouldn't date em tho. I got problems with age... It's weird lol.
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Post by Jay The Verbal Reaper on Feb 23, 2009 18:23:46 GMT
^ Heard of a kid who was a father at 11. Now aint THAT fucked up? Thou the mother was 15, which raises a greater deal.
But on the topic, on my opinion, legal age shud be whenever a person is fully informed on risks, and shit. Thou, there's limits.
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